Another deconversion story. Dylan from Princeton, NJ was raised as a Roman Catholic, then became a theistic satanist and recently became an atheist. Segment of The Atheist Experience #627 of October 18, 2009, withMatt Dillahunty and Don Baker. Topic: The Bible vs. Pro-Life. This entire episode can be watched on Blip.tv: ► blip.tv (Note: the WMV file on Blip.tv appears to be damaged. Play or download the FLV version instead.) What is The Atheist Experience? The Atheist Experience is a weekly cable access television show in Austin, Texas, geared at an atheist and non-atheist audience. The Atheist Experience is produced by the Atheist Community of Austin (ACA), a nonprofit educational corporation to develop and support the atheist community, to provide opportunities for socializing and friendship, to promote secular viewpoints, to encourage positive atheist culture, to defend the first amendment principle of state-church separation, to oppose discrimination against atheists and to work with other organizations in pursuit of common goals. ► www.Atheist-Experience.com ► http ► www.NonProphetsRadio.com Watch The Atheist Experience live (Sundays) ► tinyurl.com Support the ACA (donations/membership): ► www.Atheist-Community.org ► www.Atheist-Community.org ► Blog: AtheistExperience.blogspot.com ► Wiki www.IronChariots.org ► DVDs atheist-community.org ► Cartoons: Atheist-Community.org ► E-mail: tv@atheist-community.org
Making up logic to work for a belief – The Atheist Experience #627
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@TheRationalRant
there are lots of reasons for such experiences, but cognitive dissonance is probably the most common amongst theists. Effectively subconcious alteration of memories to suit ones beliefs.
I have had a personal experience of meeting my grandfather in the middle of the night though he was in a different country at the time. It felt wonderful, but it was just a dream that spilled over into waking as they sometimes do.
There is also the unburdonning effect of belief
@TheGodlessGuitarist You’ve had a personal experience that your bedroom is on mars? Explain.
Matt is wrong here in stating that a ‘personal experience of god’ is justification for personal belief. On that basis it would be justifyable to believe that my bedroom is actually on Mars on that basis. The only thing that a personal experience of something has never been demonstrated to exist justifies is further investigation.
at one point during this video. Press pause and hold down your the left arrow key on your keyboard. Now you can play Snake on the the video screen.
Good work there, Don. Way to contribute to the conversation.
Atheism is just lazy people not wanting to believe in God and Jesus Christ. Atheism is also people not wanting to hear that they sin or things they do are sins. I think asking an atheist to prove atheism is correct or accurate is a big waste of time and energy. God bless
@JHunterAckerman
The Church of Satan, and many other satanic groups, view satan as an archtype only. They do not believe satan is a real being. Satan represents certain characteristics they agree with. Other satanic groups view satan as a real being and worship him as their lord. So, not all satanists are theists.
great caller.
@JazzyJonas Superbly stated towards societies robots.
6:16, just to clarify to any of those mistaken, he meant to say slavery is right ! Not sure if anyone caught that, but in case a creationist did, he was mistaken and used wrong instead of right or correct which wasn’t his intentional usage of wordage! Come on Matt, your slipping! lol
Great vid, love you guys, too much humor in your vids. Love it!
Any Satanist would definitively be a theist. He was just very aware of the terms discussed.
You can’t make up logic to work for a belief, you are just using logic incorrectly.
@TheOptimistPrime lol most of the ones I’ve met are also nice people. A lot nicer than Christians who judge everyone but don’t take responsibility for it.
@RedDollShoes In my opinion, intelligence alone doesn’t define a person in a positive way. The Nazis were intelligent, but lacked kindness and compassion. Many serial killers have high IQs. I wouldn’t want an intelligent Satanist as my babysitter.
I think it’s funny that they felt so proud of themselves that they helped convert Dylan, then realized he was a SATANIST. That’s classic! Almost like being PUNK’D!
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Yeah, i looked it up. Sorry for the misguided assumption.
@AgentRiot13 Take about 2 seconds and look up what a person who follows the satanist religion actually believes. I am an atheist btw, so I’m not demonizing you, I’m just letting you know you’re wrong here.
@antonyhamill Sure you do. Lots of Satanists are atheists. I think you’re under the mistaken impression that Satanists actually worship Satan as a deity or something like that. It’s more about worshiping yourself actually.
@AgentRiot13 LaVeyan Satanists are atheists. They don’t actually believe in Satan, they just like what he represents. My facts are straight, thank you.
@RedDollShoes
A person can’t be both a satanist and an atheist. Atheists don’t believe in those super magical creatures because there is no evidence for them that can’t be explained by any other means.
Don’t try to mix atheism with satanism. They are not the same, so don’t try to demonize us (pun not intended). Get your facts straight.
Most of the Satanists I’ve met, theistic or atheistic, have been really intelligent people.
A satanist? Give me a break.
By the way, you two debaters below me make me wanna vomit with your politeness.
@Acorafication
Exactly. For us the sense stimuli are something created. In the Spanish we have wonderful word ‘naturaleza’ that indicates although some thing is a creation, there’s always an unknown goodness that was not created but rather is the reflection and/or imprint of the author of that work. Let us view the works of two great artists, a Baroque and an Impressionist. Paintings of Caravaggio employ chiaroscuro whereas Cézanne uses planes of colour. Both are equally dignified.
@ammazzamoro That is an excellent way of putting it, though it doesn’t portray the other side of dialog, the more argumentative version. In that, it seems more like a battle then a greeting.
While I agree, I have to point out that there are naturalistic reasons for the supposedly intangible material. Feelings are just chemical reactions occurring in our brain. Smells are merely our brain interpreting stimuli. There is nothing intangible that exists that doesn’t have a natural explanation.
@Acorafication
You welcome. I like to follow the advice of man of wisdom: Francis Arinze. He says that dialogue is meeting with someone, exchanging greetings and gifts, and recognizing another as worthy of our love.
Perhaps the issue some have is the idea of the transcendent; that which is beyond the material realm. The philosopher recognizes that there is concrete material and intangible material. Concrete would be say a tree or a cloud, etc. Intangible would be feelings or smells, etc.
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